RAW-converters

Why not use DPP?

While I can't say I know this for a fact, but I think Adobe uses a common Camera Raw plug-in for all of it's apps, so I don't think that they would change the format they are using for CS3. If they did, they would be orphaning all current users of: Adobe Photoshop CS2; Adobe Photoshop Elements 3.0, 4.0, and 5.0; and Adobe Premiere Elements 3.0 software (those that the last update covered). And even if they did decide to abandon those people, I think they would maintain both versions until they could consider CS2 obsolete. And then even if they decided to not maintain both versions, I wouldn't be surprised if some enterprising, can't afford CS3, soul would come up with a patch or replacement for the current plug-in. :D

All that said, I still think that if for some reason the plug-in can't work for CS3 & CS2, the plug-in will updated for CS2 (and the other apps).

Myself, I've started using Lightroom and really like it a lot. I haven't scratched the surface yet, but even just for downloading, applying default copyright info in the process, and organizing, it's a big time saver. It's kind of like combining Bridge, and an improved ACR with additional functionality.

bmoguy wrote:
but I think Adobe uses a common Camera Raw plug-in for all of it's apps

Nope: ACR for CS, CS2 and CS3 are three different apps.
As a workaround you could use DNG converter probabely...

I use DPP for everything, except highlight recovery; it still sucks at that ;)
Colors are better then enything else out there however IMO. Only thing that comes close is C1, provided you use ETCetera profiles.

For organising & catalogueing I use iView.

René Damkot wrote:

Nope: ACR for CS, CS2 and CS3 are three different apps.
As a workaround you could use DNG converter probabely...

Just when I thought I knew-it-all...:D I still don't think they would abandon CS2 so quickly. But then again, what do I know? ;):D

Now that souds interesting...
Hope I have time to look into that this weekend...

This link might be interesting if you are using C1.
It's an old, archived thread from ProPhotohome (Former Rob Galbraith forums). I used to not be able to see the entire thread, since I'm not a member anymore, but I can now...
(If it doesn't work, try this: I put it online as a web archive...

On C1 NR: I tend to set it to 'Low', banding surpression 'Off', Color Noise supression 0 to 2.

Tried the profiles in the link you provided, but I can't seem to find a 6051_N on my system, there is a 6051_ntl.ICC
It's darker then the C1 profiles. In the quick try I've done, the C1 'generic V2' profile seems to work best.

I really need to go and test this thoroughly....

*All* profiles (and all converters I've tried) seem to have a big problem with skintones overexposed with a yellow spot. (Such as here: Click. Done this one with three conversions: One for the stage, one with a lot more blue, to get blow highlights 'whiter' with DPP, one in ACR to recover a bit of the blown parts.) Big PITA.
I seriously consider shooting RAW+jpg for this reason: IIRC, the camera does a better job at getting the transition to 'blown out' right.

I have tried quite a few RAW programms and at the end got addicted to Adobe Lightroom, the settings are easy to use and u have a lot of possibilities. As a Mac user I also tried Aperture but I wasnt really satisfied with this one, for me Lightroom was the better choice.

I am an Adobe nut, so i use CS2 for everything.

I don't think you will have trouble getting updates for the CS2 RAW plugin for a while. While they would like people do, they don't expect everyone to upgrade straight away.

I think the Camera RAW plugin for CS1 works iwth the 350D, and that was released long after CS2.

Rob

Robert Bell - Inspired Graphix wrote:
I think the Camera RAW plugin for CS1 works with the 350D

Nope. Only if you convert to DNG first...

I think all Canon shooters should give DPP a try. Conversions can be a lot better then any other converter out there in colored stage lighting.
LR requires quite a bit of work to come close. (desaturate specific colors, mostly red/orange and blue/purple; otherwise they get 'solid') ACR on CS2 the same, but takes even more work.
I only use ACR to recover highlights.

You have me interested now. I have pretty much used ACR ever since shooting RAW, but will give it a go and see what happens :D

Rob

I ran into the same problem with my new 40D.

I'm using CS2 and after plunking down the money for the camera kit (and saving some to get the battery grip for it in a week or so) I just couldn't afford to upgrade my CS or my old copy of Elements.

So what I decided to do was say screw it and go with the free Adobe DNG plug-in.

I copy the shots off the card, convert the RAW files to DNG, archive the RAW files to DVD and delete them from the computer.

It will do until I can upgrade my Photoshop. Upside is I get the ability to convert my RAW files to a format Adobe SWEARS they won't abandon and is backwardly compatible with my old RAW files.

Best of both worlds, really.

"Shooter"

My first instinct was to check for the new converter.

It is only for CS3.

I was not amused.

In fact, I was frustrated for a minute because DPP is cumbersome in renaming the files to my filing system (i use a variation of date shot for ease in finding them later).

But the Adobe DNG would do the renaming while converting.

Besides, after using the RAW converter in Photoshop, I have found DPP to be cumbersome and not as easy to use.

"Shooter"